Strange crashes that make me say "huh?"

Lincoln Peters lincoln_peters at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 18 10:22:56 PST 2002


...and it crashed again five minutes ago!

>From: "Lincoln Peters" <lincoln_peters at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: <talk at nblug.org>
>To: talk at nblug.org
>Subject: Re: Strange crashes that make me say "huh?"
>Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:51:34 -0800
>
>Strangely enough, I re-ran Red Capret yesterday, and it found _another_ set
>of updates available (or maybe it crashed before I could install the first
>set; I'm not sure).  Once I got them, I logged out of KDE, logged back into
>GNOME, and so far, everything's working.
>
>Of course, I've only been logged in for about 5 minutes, but that's longer
>than I could stay logged in yesterday.
>
>
>>From: Mark Street <jet at sonic.net>
>>Reply-To: <talk at nblug.org>
>>To: talk at nblug.org
>>Subject: Re: Strange crashes that make me say "huh?"
>>Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:46:52 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>Come to think of it I am seeing about 100 or so zombie 'sh' processes when
>>I run nautilus now....  After the last round of Ximian Red Carpet updates.
>>
>>No strange crashes but I thought I might mention it.  Still digging
>>around.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Doug E. Miller wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Lincoln,
>> >
>> >   Just from reading, and rereading, your messages, it looks like those
>> > GNOME-related updates that came from Ximian Red Carpet may be suspect.
>> >
>> > Doug.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:21:55 -0800 "Lincoln Peters"
>> > <lincoln_peters at hotmail.com> writes:
>> > > I applied that line to my bootloader as soon as I heard about it
>> > > (remember
>> > > that I experienced a crash at about the same time that the bug was
>> > > discovered?).  I'm pretty sure that that's not the problem (or the
>> > > fix
>> > > didn't work).  Also, that AGP wouldn't explain why I haven't had any
>> > >
>> > > problems while I've been working in KDE instead of GNOME.  Perhaps
>> > > it's a
>> > > problem somewhere in GNOME?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: "Warren Raquel" <warquel at hotmail.com>
>> > > >Reply-To: <talk at nblug.org>
>> > > >To: <talk at nblug.org>
>> > > >Subject: Re: Strange crashes that make me say "huh?"
>> > > >Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:04:38 -0800
>> > > >
>> > > >I've had similar problems before. It was actually an 800 Duron
>> > > system I use
>> > > >for development. It always hung whenever I would try to start X. I
>> > > added
>> > > >that mem=nopentium line to my bootloader to fix the AMD AGP bug and
>> > > so far
>> > > >haven't had a problem. I don't know if that will solve that for
>> > > you, have
>> > > >you tried it?
>> > > >
>> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > >From: "Lincoln Peters" <lincoln_peters at hotmail.com>
>> > > >To: <talk at nblug.org>
>> > > >Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 5:18 PM
>> > > >Subject: Strange crashes that make me say "huh?"
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > I just updated a bunch of software packages on my computer
>> > > (RedHat 7.2
>> > > >on
>> > > >an
>> > > > > Athlon/1GHz, GNOME-related updates came from Ximian Red Carpet,
>> > > all
>> > > >other
>> > > > > came from Red Hat Network), and ever since I've been having
>> > > having
>> > > >totally
>> > > > > unexplainable lock-ups that I can only resolve with a reboot
>> > > (either
>> > > >using
>> > > > > the reset button or the magic SysRq kjey).  I have no idea
>> > > what's going
>> > > >on
>> > > > > because I can't find anything in my kernel logs that would
>> > > explain it,
>> > > >but
>> > > >I
>> > > > > do know that it's not just an X server crash because I can't
>> > > ping the
>> > > > > computer when one of these lock-ups occurrs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I only have a few bits of information.  Among the upgrades was a
>> > > new
>> > > >build
>> > > > > of the kernel.  I tried re-compiling it with all the debugging
>> > > features,
>> > > >and
>> > > > > still found nothing.  I then tried re-compiling the kernel for a
>> > > 386,
>> > > >and
>> > > > > that kernel failed to boot (some sort of problem with ext3fs).
>> > > After
>> > > >about
>> > > > > half a dozen kernel re-compiles, I'm at the same place I started
>> > > at.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There is one thing that may be a clue (but I don't know what it
>> > > means):
>> > > >Just
>> > > > > for the heck of it, I tried logging into KDE instead of GNOME,
>> > > and for
>> > > >the
>> > > > > last half an hour or so (usually it would crash within 10
>> > > minutes of
>> > > >login),
>> > > > > it's still running fine.  At least I seem to be up and running
>> > > again,
>> > > >but
>> > > >I
>> > > > > have no idea how or why!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Has anyone ran into problems like this before?  Does anyone see
>> > > anything
>> > > > > happening that I don't?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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