Firewalker reborn, Part 2: Really lean KDE?

[ME]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Lincoln Peters wrote:
> I remember that you mentioned this when I was working on the old server.  
> All of the computers that I'm really concerned about use NTFS.  Of course, 
> if it isn't as dangerous as the documentation makes it sound, I could give 
> your suggestion a try.
> 
> That thing about files that remain the same size sounds re-assuring enough.  
> I'll try it as soon as I actually netboot something off of the new server.

In addition to this, you would probably want to mount it with uid0, gid0
and make sure the files are rw root, buut disallow r and w by anyone else
just in case of accidents. Also, locate your swap file before starting.

One last things, the docs say it only works with NT4 and earlier
versions. (Just read this now.) I would test it on a w2k station that can
be rebuilt before using it in production.

> >From: ME <dugan at passwall.com>
> >Reply-To: <talk at nblug.org>
> >To: talk at nblug.org
> >Subject: Re: Firewalker reborn, Part 2: Really lean KDE?
> >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:35:26 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I seem to recall I or another suggested this, but did not recall the
> >answer...
> >
> >If the windows machines have their FS formatted as FAT16 (NT) or FAT32
> >(W2k) then you can mount the windows disk (rw) and then create/use a file
> >on the root of the windows disk or in the windows folder called
> >win386.swp, and then connect it to the loopback interface and mount the
> >loop back device as a swap.
> >
> >If the machines are using NT/2k with NTFS, you *could* (though I would not
> >suggest it) enable the NTFS filesystem kernel option, and then enable the
> >(DANGEROUS) write option, but only to use the pre-existing swap file as a
> >loopback mounted swap. (If you read the risks of using the NTFS for
> >writes, use of pre-existing files without changing their length seems to
> >be fairly safe.)
> >
> >How about these? I seem to recall that even if these *.swp files are
> >deleted in windows 95/98/ME/NT/2K/XP they are regenerated the next time
> >the windows OS restarts. As far as "weird data" being in the files, I
> >expect it is initialized for use as memory is shifted to windows swap.
> >
> >The above may offer a solution for you.
> >
> >-ME
> >
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> >On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Lincoln Peters wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:55:21 -0800
> > > From: Lincoln Peters <lincoln_peters at hotmail.com>
> > > Reply-To: talk at nblug.org
> > > To: talk at nblug.org
> > > Subject: Firewalker reborn, Part 2: Really lean KDE?
> > >
> > > I have deployed Palantir (the new netbooting server) at RCHS.  It's in 
> >the
> > > spot where Melampus (the old netbooting server) used to sit, and, 
> >strangely
> > > enough, some Freshman have asked the teacher there if it's the original
> > > computer tower (and I explained that full-size towers still exist, but 
> >are
> > > uncommon for personal computers).  I have compiled the netbooting 
> >kernel,
> > > and everything looks ready to go (I copied the installation from Isildur
> > > into /netboot on Palantir), but the issue of usability has come up 
> >again.
> > >
> > > On all of the non-netbooting computers I've set up (Isildur, Strider, 
> >and
> > > some that are still sitting in my garage), I've used the KDE desktop 
> >because
> > > it appears to be the most user-friendly environment available.  However,
> > > when I checked the memory usage on Isildur (which, like the NT 
> >workstations,
> > > has 64MB of RAM), it's using about 34MB of its swap space when KDE is
> > > running, not counting any user applications (Konqueror, KWord, etc.) 
> >that it
> > > might be running.  These netbooting systems will not have the luxury of 
> >swap
> > > space, but everything I could come up with using FVWM looked a bit too
> > > intimidating (I won't be completely satisfied until every technophobe I 
> >know
> > > can use it by intuition).
> > >
> > > Is there a way to strip down the default KDE installation in Red Hat 7.2 
> >so
> > > that it won't cause the machine to run out of memory?  If not, is it
> > > possible to do so with GNOME?  Or is my idea doomed, and do I need more
> > > practice with the FVWM configuration?
> > >
> > >
> > > And, no, I don't have the kind of authority that would allow me to 
> >perform
> > > any sort of upgrades on the NT workstations.  I cannot add memory or
> > > re-partition them; the only thing that makes the netbooting project
> > > acceptable is that it doesn't mess with the hard drives on the NT
> > > workstations (and the real technician still doesn't know what I'm 
> >doing).
> > >
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