Stampede

Rafe Magnuson rmagnuson at onebox.com
Fri Mar 23 00:13:40 PST 2001


Ah, I should have waited about two more seconds before my last post,
as the information you present below is most useful. It brings me to
wonder though, why is egcs so much more portable than something like
pgcc? Certainly I can see machines of the x86 class being of use still,
but don't most people have at the very least a pentium 1 class processor
(gasp! a p90! or a p60!)? Or am I missing the point entirely here?

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---- Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> begin  Rafe Magnuson quotation:
> > Ah! That's the insight I was looking for. So it _is_ faster then?
> 
> 
> It did seem _somewhat_ that way -- especially where X was concerned.
> But straight-up comparisons are notoriously difficult, because there
> are
> usually way too many uncontrolled variables.  I could have fooled
> myself, so don't count on it.  Stands to reason that it would be,
> anyway.
> 
> Also, bear in mind that some code just doesn't benefit from that
> treatment -- and a certain amount of RAM bloat may happen.  (I didn't
> notice any, particularly, in this case.)  Note that the Stampede people
> are using pgcc, a single-pass Pentium optimised compiler.  It was the
> first product of the Pentium Compiler Group, a consortium that included
> participation from Intel and CYGNUS, and that later produced egcs,
> which
> has been adopted by the FSF as gcc 2.8 and above.  Before these two,
> there were no gcc variants producing better than 486 optimisation (e.g.,
> gcc 2.7.x).
> 
> I know of no other distribution that produces binaries using pgcc.
> (It's not portable to other CPU architectures, which is part of the
> reason we got egcs.)
> 
> > From your experience does the file/config structure resemble slackware
> > to any degree? 
> 
> The (default) init structure is very similar (BSD-ish) to the old
> Slackware one, and it has the same general sort of simple layout.
> There's a package to substitute SysVInit, if you prefer (which I do).
> 
> Also, the installer reminded me a _lot_ of Slackware's.
> 
> The FAQ says that, also, Stampede's initial package list was inspired
> by
> Slackware's.  I wouldn't know about that, from my own encounters.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,                                      Right to keep and bear
> Rick Moen                                  Haiku shall not be abridged
> rick at linuxmafia.com                           Or denied.  So there.
> 

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