DefCon

error error at sonic.net
Mon Jun 17 21:36:54 PDT 2002


On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 17:16, ME wrote:
> On 17 Jun 2002, error wrote:
> > So I have been accepted to speak at DefCon this year and I wanted to do
> > an informal survey of the nblug.
> > 
> > How many of you are planning on attending DefCon X?
> 
> Me :-)  I have up to 6 people coming with me all pre-arranged. One person
> is a member of nblug, and 2 other have been to installfests and a few
> meetings while the rest are rather new to linux and mostl dont run it.
> Most are driving down either on Thurs really early or Wed. later in the
> evening. (After 10:00am) 
> 


Awesome, we should meet up.
I will be at quarks bar and the alexis for the entire trip. 
Cell phones are perfect for this...
I am flying in on Wednesday with Leif.
I decided this year to not get a hotel room because last year, I didn't
even use mine. So if you feel so inclined, invite us over :)



> > How many of you read this and said no?
> 
> Not me - I read it, but did not say no. Of course I did just write
> "no" but not as an answer to your question just a part of the answer to
> your question. ]:>
> 
> > This year is going to be really interesting.
> 
> In what way?

Well for one, I am speaking and thus I am excited.
I agree the topics have been pretty lame in the past but I feel that
there is going to be a good mix of tech and non tech talk.
Lots of law oriented talks is a positive thing.

I will be giving a speech on NLP. (google for it if you care :)

As far as I know that will be on the Uber track.

> Previous years mostly have included the same speakers and
> topics that are re-done over and over. There are some good speeches in the
> Uber Hax0r track and sometimes in the Hax0r track, but every year I look
> and say, "yep, saw that one last year or 3 years ago or whatever.." It
> seems the best year was the first year I went.  Also, the tracks are
> getting more and more mainstream - fewer people wearing black and tees
> with kewl political statements, more suits. Fewer drinkers, fewer smokers.
> More organized - less chaos. (Some advantages (fewer smokers and drinkers
> while being more organized), some disadvantages (talks that include people
> from "sales" groups/dept trying to sell products in a speech and hand out
> glossy color fliers :-P blech! and fewer unexpected events to tell as
> stories).) There are fewer pranks, but more clueless people. There seem
> fewer people who are DoS-ers and think that is hacking/cracking but more
> people who seem to be interrested in doing it if they only knew how.
>

I like the pranks, I mean last year pete shipley got tossed into the
pool.
Alright so its not a prank, but he broke someones laptop, that was
entertaining to watch.

The bondage aspect is also a great part, I love how in the morning and
afternoon its all geek. Later that same night you can be enjoying a
bondage party or hanging out with the creator of rotten.com and having a
very intellectual conversation.

I think I will be in the yak.net room (strick) for most of the nights,
but I will probably venture over to shatter at some point.

Perhaps I will even get to work the DOC booth again (last year i got
this awesome anti-mpaa pro decss shirt for my time).

I really love defcon, I mean where else can you buy the entire nevada
state dmv database and then talk to girls who are pretty and run netbsd.

> Don't get me wrong, I still will be going and will still have fun and I
> will still learn a lot, but the "newness" has worn off.

I suppose it will for me someday, but I like seeing people I never see
anywhere else.

> Perhaps you say that this year is going to be good because *you* are
> speaking? ;-)  If So, I'll come watch your speech so long as it is not up
> against Bruce's. 

I hope not, I would hate to have to miss my time slot.

>What is your topic? (BTW, you have a lot more courage to
> give a speech there than me! I might be willing to someday speak at
> USENIX but probably won't speak at DefCon until after I *really* know a
> lot of stuff.
> 

I will be speaking on NLP (As stated before) I think it is going to bore
the hell out of everyone, but hey I like it. Apparently so did DT, so
that's all that matters.

It really depends on the track you want to speak at also, I personally
will be speaking on something that I feel I have known for years and
years. So perhaps I will do well.

I might add that I do all sorts of things that are absolutely insane
(right Mr. Street?) and they turn out just fine.


-
Jake




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