[NBLUG/talk] Linux for refurbished computers (was: Re: Distributing
OpenOffice...)
Ron Wickersham
rjw at alembic.com
Tue Aug 12 16:36:01 PDT 2003
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Lincoln Peters wrote:
> I still can't get the Gnumeric website to load on my computer. Is anyone
> else having problems with the Gnumeric website?
at the root servers, ns1.styx.net is said to be authoritative for gnumeric.org.
but you can't get to that name server (or it's backups).
and styx.net doesn't run their own authoritative server, the root says look at
ns1.nameresolve.com. but that name server is unreachable (as well as its
backups).
the root says nameresolve.com isn't authoritative for their own zone either,
and lists ns1.dotster.com. at least that one is alive and points to an A
record.
so we can traceroute to find out where the connection stops and find that it
dies in Seattle, trying to get to the name server. it dies at a router for
pnap.net, but at least you can get to pnap.net's name server. but you can't
get to pnap.net to check the status of their network and connections to
their customers.
so no one can reach gnumeric.org right now.
-ron
####
long details follow:
the org registry is now pir.org
batz% whois -h whois.pir.org gnumeric.org
---snip---
Domain ID:D23050413-LROR
Domain Name:GNUMERIC.ORG
Created On:22-Mar-2000 09:23:41 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Nov-2001 19:14:56 UTC
Expiration Date:22-Mar-2010 09:23:41 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R34-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:34-C
Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.dotster.com
---snip---
Name Server:DNS1.MX.STYX.NET
Name Server:DNS1.EU.STYX.NET
Name Server:DNS1.US.STYX.NET
batz% whois -h whois.dotster.com gnumeric.org
---snip---
Registrant:
Helix Code Inc.
101 Rogers Street, Suite 214
Cambridge, MA 02142
US
Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: GNUMERIC.ORG
Created on: 22-MAR-00
Expires on: 22-MAR-10
Last Updated on: 22-MAR-00
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.US.STYX.NET
DNS1.MX.STYX.NET
DNS1.EU.STYX.NET
End of Whois Information
###
so the domain itself was registered for 10 years.
looking for the ip address at styx.net:
###
batz% /usr/sbin/dig @dns1.us.styx.net gnumeric.org
; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @dns1.us.styx.net gnumeric.org
; Bad server: dns1.us.styx.net -- using default server and timer opts
; (3 servers found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; res_nsend to server default -- 192.82.19.253: Connection timed out
###
so what's up with the name servers?
batz% whois styx.net
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: STYX.NET
Registrar: UNIVERSAL REGISTRATION SERVICES, INC.
Whois Server: whois.newdentity.com
Referral URL: http://www.newdentity.com
Name Server: NS1.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server: NS2.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server: NS3.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server: NS4.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 03-jul-2003
Creation Date: 03-jul-2003
Expiration Date: 03-jul-2004
---snip---
batz% whois -h whois.newdentity.com styx.net
---snip---
No match for "STYX.NET".
on www.newdentity.com they don't show any additional information, just
regurgitate the internic's record.
looking further for ns1.nameresolve.com:
batz% /usr/sbin/dig ns1.nameresolve.com
; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> ns1.nameresolve.com
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; QUERY SECTION:
;; ns1.nameresolve.com, type = A, class = IN
;; ANSWER SECTION:
ns1.nameresolve.com. 1d19h3m4s IN A 64.94.117.196
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
nameresolve.com. 1d23h58m24s IN NS ns1.dotster.com.
nameresolve.com. 1d23h58m24s IN NS ns2.dotster.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.dotster.com. 1d23h58m24s IN A 64.94.117.199
ns2.dotster.com. 1d23h58m24s IN A 63.251.83.78
;; Total query time: 7 msec
;; FROM: batz to SERVER: default -- 192.82.19.253
;; WHEN: Tue Aug 12 16:04:52 2003
;; MSG SIZE sent: 37 rcvd: 144
###
ok, so at least we can traceroute to ns1.nameresolve.com
/usr/sbin/traceroute ns1.nameresolve.com
traceroute to ns1.nameresolve.com (64.94.117.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 66-gw-ap-net.alembic.net (66.182.11.254) 0.807 ms 0.432 ms 0.400 ms
2 gandg.wireless.ap.net (192.82.17.65) 10.837 ms 10.900 ms 24.148 ms
3 sr-r1.ap.net (192.82.20.33) 17.041 ms 11.506 ms 15.238 ms
4 216-210-197-149.atgi.net (216.210.197.149) 11.464 ms 13.476 ms 16.218 ms
5 gig00.cr1.snrsca16.atgi.net (206.58.248.71) 24.161 ms 43.579 ms 10.685 ms
6 se10.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.174.225.49) 39.137 ms 38.893 ms 22.356 ms
7 Serial3-9.GW9.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.212.113) 45.412 ms 65.114 ms 39.872 ms
8 136.ATM6-0.XR2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.198) 52.444 ms 45.369 ms 88.546 ms
9 0.so-0-0-0.XL2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.77) 37.207 ms 37.376 ms 41.085 ms
10 0.so-4-0-0.TL2.SCL2.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.61) 98.783 ms 38.761 ms 39.520 ms
11 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.146) 48.220 ms 39.497 ms 35.780 ms
12 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.133) 97.168 ms 37.256 ms 40.947 ms
13 POS5-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.234) 46.690 ms 39.126 ms 47.911 ms
14 194.ATM6-0.GW8.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.229) 36.349 ms 38.351 ms 38.127 ms
15 internap1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.191.30) 50.569 ms 41.475 ms 47.469 ms
16 border5.ge2-1-bbnet2.sef.pnap.net (63.251.160.74) 38.900 ms 82.691 ms 35.994 ms
17 * * *
18 * * *
and so forth.
so we can't reach the name server for the name server for gnumeric.org.
the connection dies inside pnap.net but we can get to their name servers:
batz% /usr/sbin/traceroute ns-a.pnap.net
traceroute to ns-a.pnap.net (64.94.123.4), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 66-gw-ap-net.alembic.net (66.182.11.254) 0.686 ms 0.452 ms 0.428 ms
2 gandg.wireless.ap.net (192.82.17.65) 11.248 ms 11.508 ms 11.813 ms
3 sr-r1.ap.net (192.82.20.33) 10.378 ms 10.215 ms 11.943 ms
4 216-210-197-149.atgi.net (216.210.197.149) 11.715 ms 12.485 ms 11.242 ms
5 gig00.cr1.snrsca16.atgi.net (206.58.248.71) 18.552 ms 23.148 ms 12.894 ms
6 se10.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.174.225.49) 14.307 ms 15.387 ms se13.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.210.208.1) 16.569 ms
7 Serial3-9.GW9.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.212.113) 38.288 ms 44.579 ms 42.936 ms
8 136.ATM5-0.XR1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.186) 57.306 ms 57.277 ms 43.320 ms
9 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.73) 40.374 ms 36.102 ms 38.841 ms
10 0.so-4-0-0.TL1.SCL2.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.253) 38.668 ms 39.694 ms 37.569 ms
11 0.so-5-0-0.TL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.14) 42.239 ms 36.457 ms 35.909 ms
12 0.so-1-0-0.XL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.129) 38.635 ms 36.892 ms 36.909 ms
13 POS5-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.226) 37.843 ms 56.552 ms 43.468 ms
14 195.ATM6-0.GW8.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.217) 41.791 ms 37.506 ms 36.022 ms
15 internap1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.191.30) 38.280 ms 43.344 ms 42.893 ms
16 border1.fe0-0-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net (63.251.160.4) 43.480 ms 37.655 ms 41.837 ms
17 ns-a.pnap.net (64.94.123.4) 38.794 ms 41.108 ms 42.955 ms
so at least the service provider's name server is alive...but not all's well,
i can't get to the service provider's web server. it dies at the same
place that nameresolve.com's name server dies.tz% /usr/sbin/traceroute www.pnap.net
traceroute to www.pnap.net (63.251.170.41), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 66-gw-ap-net.alembic.net (66.182.11.254) 0.786 ms 0.432 ms 0.398 ms
2 gandg.wireless.ap.net (192.82.17.65) 33.730 ms 11.117 ms 12.319 ms
3 sr-r1.ap.net (192.82.20.33) 15.754 ms 10.882 ms 55.671 ms
4 216-210-197-149.atgi.net (216.210.197.149) 20.790 ms 21.167 ms 16.782 ms
5 gig00.cr1.snrsca16.atgi.net (206.58.248.71) 12.284 ms 20.080 ms 11.123 ms
6 se13.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.210.208.1) 15.002 ms se10.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.174.225.49) 13.948 ms 13.988 ms
7 Serial3-9.GW9.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.212.113) 93.686 ms 35.184 ms 51.190 ms
8 136.ATM5-0.XR2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.190) 40.554 ms 36.840 ms 41.807 ms
9 0.so-0-0-0.XL2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.77) 50.008 ms 41.677 ms 40.609 ms
10 0.so-4-0-0.TL2.SCL2.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.61) 35.703 ms 38.162 ms 41.014 ms
11 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.146) 38.103 ms 39.233 ms 37.489 ms
12 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.133) 41.756 ms 38.305 ms 36.862 ms
13 POS5-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.234) 37.525 ms 36.389 ms 38.994 ms
14 194.ATM7-0.GW8.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.221) 46.305 ms 46.662 ms 50.015 ms
15 internap1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.191.30) 42.227 ms 35.786 ms 38.049 ms
16 border5.ge3-1-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net (63.251.160.10) 45.352 ms 43.062 ms 41.326 ms
17 * * *
18 * * *
so after wasting your time looking at all this, i don't have any real info
on what's up with gnumeric.org. :-(
-ron
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