[NBLUG/talk] Linux for refurbished computers (was: Re: Distributing OpenOffice...)
Mark Greeott
mark at greeott.com
Tue Aug 12 16:49:00 PDT 2003
Or... http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 16:38, Ron Wickersham wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Lincoln Peters wrote:
> > I still can't get the Gnumeric website to load on my computer. Is anyone
> > else having problems with the Gnumeric website?
>
> at the root servers, ns1.styx.net is said to be authoritative for
> gnumeric.org. but you can't get to that name server (or it's backups).
>
> and styx.net doesn't run their own authoritative server, the root says look
> at ns1.nameresolve.com. but that name server is unreachable (as well as
> its backups).
>
> the root says nameresolve.com isn't authoritative for their own zone
> either, and lists ns1.dotster.com. at least that one is alive and points
> to an A record.
>
> so we can traceroute to find out where the connection stops and find that
> it dies in Seattle, trying to get to the name server. it dies at a router
> for pnap.net, but at least you can get to pnap.net's name server. but you
> can't get to pnap.net to check the status of their network and connections
> to their customers.
>
> so no one can reach gnumeric.org right now.
>
> -ron
>
>
> ####
>
> long details follow:
>
> the org registry is now pir.org
>
> batz% whois -h whois.pir.org gnumeric.org
>
> ---snip---
>
> Domain ID:D23050413-LROR
> Domain Name:GNUMERIC.ORG
> Created On:22-Mar-2000 09:23:41 UTC
> Last Updated On:05-Nov-2001 19:14:56 UTC
> Expiration Date:22-Mar-2010 09:23:41 UTC
> Sponsoring Registrar:R34-LROR
> Status:OK
> Registrant ID:34-C
> Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR
> Registrant Street1:Whois Server:whois.dotster.com
> ---snip---
> Name Server:DNS1.MX.STYX.NET
> Name Server:DNS1.EU.STYX.NET
> Name Server:DNS1.US.STYX.NET
>
>
> batz% whois -h whois.dotster.com gnumeric.org
>
> ---snip---
>
> Registrant:
> Helix Code Inc.
> 101 Rogers Street, Suite 214
> Cambridge, MA 02142
> US
>
> Registrar: DOTSTER
> Domain Name: GNUMERIC.ORG
> Created on: 22-MAR-00
> Expires on: 22-MAR-10
> Last Updated on: 22-MAR-00
>
> Domain servers in listed order:
> DNS1.US.STYX.NET
> DNS1.MX.STYX.NET
> DNS1.EU.STYX.NET
>
> End of Whois Information
>
> ###
>
> so the domain itself was registered for 10 years.
>
> looking for the ip address at styx.net:
>
> ###
>
> batz% /usr/sbin/dig @dns1.us.styx.net gnumeric.org
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @dns1.us.styx.net gnumeric.org
> ; Bad server: dns1.us.styx.net -- using default server and timer opts
> ; (3 servers found)
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; res_nsend to server default -- 192.82.19.253: Connection timed out
>
> ###
>
> so what's up with the name servers?
>
> batz% whois styx.net
>
> Whois Server Version 1.3
>
> Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
> with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
> for detailed information.
>
> Domain Name: STYX.NET
> Registrar: UNIVERSAL REGISTRATION SERVICES, INC.
> Whois Server: whois.newdentity.com
> Referral URL: http://www.newdentity.com
> Name Server: NS1.NAMERESOLVE.COM
> Name Server: NS2.NAMERESOLVE.COM
> Name Server: NS3.NAMERESOLVE.COM
> Name Server: NS4.NAMERESOLVE.COM
> Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
> Updated Date: 03-jul-2003
> Creation Date: 03-jul-2003
> Expiration Date: 03-jul-2004
>
> ---snip---
>
> batz% whois -h whois.newdentity.com styx.net
>
> ---snip---
>
> No match for "STYX.NET".
>
> on www.newdentity.com they don't show any additional information, just
> regurgitate the internic's record.
>
> looking further for ns1.nameresolve.com:
>
> batz% /usr/sbin/dig ns1.nameresolve.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> ns1.nameresolve.com
> ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
> ;; got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
> ;; QUERY SECTION:
> ;; ns1.nameresolve.com, type = A, class = IN
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> ns1.nameresolve.com. 1d19h3m4s IN A 64.94.117.196
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> nameresolve.com. 1d23h58m24s IN NS ns1.dotster.com.
> nameresolve.com. 1d23h58m24s IN NS ns2.dotster.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns1.dotster.com. 1d23h58m24s IN A 64.94.117.199
> ns2.dotster.com. 1d23h58m24s IN A 63.251.83.78
>
> ;; Total query time: 7 msec
> ;; FROM: batz to SERVER: default -- 192.82.19.253
> ;; WHEN: Tue Aug 12 16:04:52 2003
> ;; MSG SIZE sent: 37 rcvd: 144
>
> ###
>
> ok, so at least we can traceroute to ns1.nameresolve.com
>
> /usr/sbin/traceroute ns1.nameresolve.com
> traceroute to ns1.nameresolve.com (64.94.117.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> packets 1 66-gw-ap-net.alembic.net (66.182.11.254) 0.807 ms 0.432 ms
> 0.400 ms 2 gandg.wireless.ap.net (192.82.17.65) 10.837 ms 10.900 ms
> 24.148 ms 3 sr-r1.ap.net (192.82.20.33) 17.041 ms 11.506 ms 15.238 ms
> 4 216-210-197-149.atgi.net (216.210.197.149) 11.464 ms 13.476 ms
> 16.218 ms 5 gig00.cr1.snrsca16.atgi.net (206.58.248.71) 24.161 ms 43.579
> ms 10.685 ms 6 se10.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.174.225.49) 39.137 ms
> 38.893 ms 22.356 ms 7 Serial3-9.GW9.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.212.113)
> 45.412 ms 65.114 ms 39.872 ms 8 136.ATM6-0.XR2.PAO1.ALTER.NET
> (152.63.52.198) 52.444 ms 45.369 ms 88.546 ms 9
> 0.so-0-0-0.XL2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.77) 37.207 ms 37.376 ms 41.085
> ms 10 0.so-4-0-0.TL2.SCL2.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.61) 98.783 ms 38.761 ms
> 39.520 ms 11 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.146) 48.220 ms
> 39.497 ms 35.780 ms 12 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.133)
> 97.168 ms 37.256 ms 40.947 ms 13 POS5-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET
> (152.63.106.234) 46.690 ms 39.126 ms 47.911 ms 14
> 194.ATM6-0.GW8.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.229) 36.349 ms 38.351 ms
> 38.127 ms 15 internap1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.191.30) 50.569 ms
> 41.475 ms 47.469 ms 16 border5.ge2-1-bbnet2.sef.pnap.net (63.251.160.74)
> 38.900 ms 82.691 ms 35.994 ms 17 * * *
> 18 * * *
> and so forth.
>
> so we can't reach the name server for the name server for gnumeric.org.
>
> the connection dies inside pnap.net but we can get to their name servers:
>
> batz% /usr/sbin/traceroute ns-a.pnap.net
> traceroute to ns-a.pnap.net (64.94.123.4), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1 66-gw-ap-net.alembic.net (66.182.11.254) 0.686 ms 0.452 ms 0.428 ms
> 2 gandg.wireless.ap.net (192.82.17.65) 11.248 ms 11.508 ms 11.813 ms
> 3 sr-r1.ap.net (192.82.20.33) 10.378 ms 10.215 ms 11.943 ms
> 4 216-210-197-149.atgi.net (216.210.197.149) 11.715 ms 12.485 ms
> 11.242 ms 5 gig00.cr1.snrsca16.atgi.net (206.58.248.71) 18.552 ms 23.148
> ms 12.894 ms 6 se10.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.174.225.49) 14.307 ms
> 15.387 ms se13.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.210.208.1) 16.569 ms 7
> Serial3-9.GW9.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.212.113) 38.288 ms 44.579 ms
> 42.936 ms 8 136.ATM5-0.XR1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.186) 57.306 ms
> 57.277 ms 43.320 ms 9 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.73)
> 40.374 ms 36.102 ms 38.841 ms 10 0.so-4-0-0.TL1.SCL2.ALTER.NET
> (152.63.0.253) 38.668 ms 39.694 ms 37.569 ms 11
> 0.so-5-0-0.TL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.14) 42.239 ms 36.457 ms 35.909
> ms 12 0.so-1-0-0.XL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.129) 38.635 ms 36.892 ms
> 36.909 ms 13 POS5-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.226) 37.843 ms 56.552
> ms 43.468 ms 14 195.ATM6-0.GW8.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.217) 41.791 ms
> 37.506 ms 36.022 ms 15 internap1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.191.30)
> 38.280 ms 43.344 ms 42.893 ms 16 border1.fe0-0-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net
> (63.251.160.4) 43.480 ms 37.655 ms 41.837 ms 17 ns-a.pnap.net
> (64.94.123.4) 38.794 ms 41.108 ms 42.955 ms
>
> so at least the service provider's name server is alive...but not all's
> well, i can't get to the service provider's web server. it dies at the
> same place that nameresolve.com's name server dies.tz% /usr/sbin/traceroute
> www.pnap.net traceroute to www.pnap.net (63.251.170.41), 30 hops max, 40
> byte packets 1 66-gw-ap-net.alembic.net (66.182.11.254) 0.786 ms 0.432
> ms 0.398 ms 2 gandg.wireless.ap.net (192.82.17.65) 33.730 ms 11.117 ms
> 12.319 ms 3 sr-r1.ap.net (192.82.20.33) 15.754 ms 10.882 ms 55.671 ms
> 4 216-210-197-149.atgi.net (216.210.197.149) 20.790 ms 21.167 ms
> 16.782 ms 5 gig00.cr1.snrsca16.atgi.net (206.58.248.71) 12.284 ms 20.080
> ms 11.123 ms 6 se13.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.210.208.1) 15.002 ms
> se10.cr1.paixpa.atgi.net (216.174.225.49) 13.948 ms 13.988 ms 7
> Serial3-9.GW9.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.212.113) 93.686 ms 35.184 ms
> 51.190 ms 8 136.ATM5-0.XR2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.190) 40.554 ms
> 36.840 ms 41.807 ms 9 0.so-0-0-0.XL2.PAO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.77)
> 50.008 ms 41.677 ms 40.609 ms 10 0.so-4-0-0.TL2.SCL2.ALTER.NET
> (152.63.1.61) 35.703 ms 38.162 ms 41.014 ms 11
> 0.so-0-0-0.TL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.146) 38.103 ms 39.233 ms 37.489
> ms 12 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.2.133) 41.756 ms 38.305 ms
> 36.862 ms 13 POS5-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.234) 37.525 ms 36.389
> ms 38.994 ms 14 194.ATM7-0.GW8.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.221) 46.305 ms
> 46.662 ms 50.015 ms 15 internap1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.191.30)
> 42.227 ms 35.786 ms 38.049 ms 16 border5.ge3-1-bbnet1.sef.pnap.net
> (63.251.160.10) 45.352 ms 43.062 ms 41.326 ms 17 * * *
> 18 * * *
>
> so after wasting your time looking at all this, i don't have any real info
> on what's up with gnumeric.org. :-(
>
> -ron
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