[NBLUG/talk] FAT32 multiple file copy order

[Bob Blick]

Hi Aaron,

It is crappy, but an awful lot of them are like that. Only the
super-duper ones don't. The Kenwood I had in my Mustang worked right but
the user interface was bad.

The ctime, date/time doesn't matter to the Pioneer. It really is the
order it is on the disk. Weird. It's like it doesn't have any memory at
all to make a list of files.

I don't know how it handles data CDs. My wife's Scion has a factory
Pioneer and it orders things by filename.

My Sansa Fuze orders by ID3 track number, but only if it's an ID3V2.x,
not V1 or 1.1

I do plan to attend tomorrow, and I'll bring my projector.

Cheerful regards,

Bob

Aaron Grattafiori wrote:
> "it plays them in the order they are copied to the directory they are in".
> 1) That is crappy.
> 2) That is an interesting problem to solve.
> 
> I suggest you do a test. I'm guessing it looks at the timestamps of the
> files in order
> to determine what was copied onto the drive first ? You could
> use Linux and a little
> scripting to just 'touch' the files to dates that are arranged how you
> want to listen to the music. *I think*
> 
> If it isn't using the filenames, not sure how else besides for the ctime
> (or maybe mtime?) of the file
> it knows how they were copied to the disk.
> 
> I'd put 4 songs in a folder and try changing the dates of the files
> around with touch, then see if the
> order it plays them in changes... I think that should trick it into
> thinking you copied the files earlier/later/whatever. 
> I don't know if you can change the creation time of  the files with
> touch.. or if you'll need to do that or not.
> 
> For any unacquainted with the touch command: http://www.linfo.org/touch.html
> 
> Good luck, See ya tomorrow!
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Bob Blick <bobblick at ftml.net
> <mailto:bobblick at ftml.net>> wrote:
> 
>     My Pioneer car stereo has USB input for thumb drives with mp3 files in
>     FAT32 format. It does read ID3 tags, but unfortunately does not use that
>     information nor the filename to decide what order to play the files. It
>     plays them in the order they are copied to the directory they are in.
> 
>     Therefore I need to be able to force the copying process to be in
>     filename order, since I have the track number at the beginning of each
>     filename.
> 
>     I know that when I copy them in Windows. it copies them in filename
>     order if I click the last file, hold the shif key, then click the first
>     filename, then drag the files over. That gets kind of old since I can't
>     just grab a whole lot of folders, or even one folder at a time, I have
>     to create a folder, then copy to it.
> 
>     In Linux if I use Konqueror, I am not sure what order it copies them. It
>     seems really random.
> 
>     Any suggestions? Go back to an iPod?
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     Bob
> 
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