[NBLUG/talk] domain name registrar which uses spam list on outgoing mail?

Michael Tucker mchltckr80 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 29 19:58:21 PST 2012


Hi everyone,

Anyone else get that google redirect email?

Michael
On Nov 29, 2012 2:17 PM, "Kendall Shaw" <kshaw at kendallshaw.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The thing about the MX records was about how the domain name hosting
> service relays spam through the server with the ip address that my MX
> records are set to.
>
> So, I could pay for hosting a mail server as well as domain name, as you
> say. I repeatedly learn about mail servers set them up and leave them
> unchanged for a long time. I then forget how to maintain them and have a
> big hassle when I have to change something. If that is the only option I'm
> left with, I will do that. But, people manage to use email without running
> into this problem. So, there must be a solution. I imagine a hosting
> company might be more likely to care about their servers being on spam
> lists.
>
> I can't send email from my home because the ISP blocks it.
>
> What do companies do that have email forwarded? They can't have their
> customers' email rejected. I guess they send an employee out to find
> another domain name hosting service. I don't want to do the same thing as
> that employee. I doubt spamhaus answers email with recommendations. Maybe I
> will try.
>
> Kendall
>
>
> On 11/29/2012 01:31 PM, Mitch Patenaude wrote:
>
>> MX records only apply to incoming mail, and from reading your post, it
>> seems that it's outbound email that has a problem, and the two aren't
>> necessarily the same.  This is a sticky problem, and their aren't any
>> surefire answers.  There are things you can do that might help.
>>
>> 1) If you have the ability to edit your own DNS, the you could add an SPF
>> record for your domain that matches their outbound server(s).  This will
>> tell people that their outbound server is *supposed* to handle mail for
>> your domain, which should help.  It'll look something like:
>> kendallshaw.com.         IN  TXT "v=spf1 mx ip4:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/NN -all"
>> kendallshaw.com.         IN  SPF "v=spf1 mx ip4:XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/NN -all"
>>
>> 2) If you are up to setting up your own postfix/qmail implementation on a
>> virtual server somewhere, then you could just move off their mail servers
>> altogether.  You can also just handle the outbound email via your own
>> server. I'd suggest implementing DKIM as well, though that's not strictly
>> necessary.
>>
>> These are a bit advanced, so if you need help setting them up, there is
>> likely somebody here who can help.
>>
>>    -- Mitch
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Kendall Shaw <kshaw at kendallshaw.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> If this is too far off topic, I apologize. I have email forwarded to my
>>> ISP by my domain name registrar (I use fetchmail to put that in an imap
>>> server. so that's how this is related to linux...). Their host that
>>> relays
>>> email for my account gets on the CBL at spamhaus. So, people who send me
>>> email get an email back that seems to be saying that I am a spammer. This
>>> is a disaster.
>>>
>>> The registrar tech support people that I talked to said that they won't
>>> move my MX record to a different host and that there is nothing that they
>>> can do.
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, the host that relays email to my ISP could use
>>> a spam detection service, for example spamhaus, on email that they relay,
>>> and take preventative measures.
>>>
>>> Do you know how I can find a domain name registrar that doesn't get it's
>>> servers on spam lists frequently? Aside from asking each one and hoping
>>> to
>>> be understood.
>>>
>>> Kendall
>>>
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