[NBLUG/talk] theft deterrent / security system

Michael Tucker mchltckr80 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 11 11:56:47 PST 2013


As for extending range of wireless devices there is a ethernet based device
known as the "Bullet" that will attach to a yagi or other antenna.
On Nov 11, 2013 11:55 AM, "Christopher Wagner" <waggie at waggie.net> wrote:

> I don't have anything to add to the security camera part of this, but
> regarding the wifi range part, I've used Engenius indoor/outdoor access
> points to set-up long-range 802.11 "backhauls" at customer locations.
> With half-way decent line of sight, I've gotten up to 1 km without any
> problems (haven't tried any further).  I know that the equipment
> supports far more with external directional antennas.  Generally my
> set-up has been two Engenius access points mounted outside, that connect
> via ethernet to internal access points or routers.  It's a bit of set-up
> and equipment, but has been extremely reliable for me.  I've tried
> "range boosters" and that sort of thing, and they've always been
> horribly unreliable or not really any better.
>
> Anyway, my two cents..
>
> On 11/11/2013 11:08 AM, Steve S. wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, jezra <jezra at jezra.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm thinking the "shape" should be a home-made rustic birdhouse, or
> >> something else that blends into the surroundings. Currently, the
> >> property has a shed, a trailer, and a bunch of oak trees. If well
> >> disguised, the probability of the security system getting stolen would
> >> be dramatically reduced.
> > Yeah, I was going to say:  having your whole system (including the
> > recordings/evidence) stolen would be a possible problem (even a
> > "likely" problem... in the UNLIKELY event the robbers are even
> > semi-intelligent).  I presume you'd solar-power the thing, with
> > battery-array for nights?  Your set-up is getting bigger... harder to
> > hide.
> >
> > I would *NOT* use a "game-cam" camera -- I bet some of these guys are
> > hunters, and would spot it in a cold second... and be glad to take the
> > extra profit !
> >
> > Another possibility:  invest some in better lens(es) -- telephoto --
> > and set your system off a ways where it just won't be seen (telephoto
> > lenses WILL be bigger than normal; but not too huge, as the cam-sensor
> > will be pretty small).  Camo-gear to cover your set-up.  A solar-array
> > is harder to hide, though... buried power-line, so the array looks
> > like it's powering your trailer (mounting it on the trailer)?  I'm not
> > sure how big your solar-array would have to be, to power things
> > through (for example) a multi-day-storm where "daytime" only provides
> > a small part of its usual charge; looting is more-common after big
> > storms like that.  A flash-disk for storage would help with both size
> > and power issues.
> >
> > A "fake" antenna/camera(s) could work (or at least help), with a big
> > sign saying "video monitored off-site".  Any chance of getting (or
> > faking) an "official logo/label" from one of your regional
> > telecomm's-providers, so it "looks like" you've had a "genuine"
> > (instead of DIY) installation?
> >
> > Finally, as Steve suggests (err... the OTHER Steve (I am *also* a
> > "Steve S" -- an excellent name! ;-) ) , internet *might* be available,
> > with a bit of extra effort:  off-the-shelf wifi can be range-boosted
> > without too much cost, as a fairly-simple DIY project.  I've seen
> > claims of multi-KILOMETER range achieved from a simple 802.11g home
> > wifi router...  Maybe you and some neighboring property-owners could
> > collaborate in sharing a multi-hop configuration to the nearest
> > access-point?
> >
> >
> > - Steve S (but not "sjs")
> >
> >
>
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