[NBLUG/talk] new computer (alas!)
Omar Eljumaily
omar at omnicode.com
Mon Oct 19 13:16:21 PDT 2015
If you're running a server that has to handle lots of different
processes, you probably want to look at overall performance:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
I find AMDs to be cheaper and less quirky than Intel, but for very high
performance AMD doesn't come close to Intel.
If you have to run a particular app that doesn't make use of
multi-threading, then look at single thread performance.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
Unless you're an ISP, Google, or do lots of number crunching, most
people don't need a high end CPU.
I had to spec out a CAD machine recently that had good single thread
performance because Autocad can use at most 2 threads at a time.
Omar
On 10/19/2015 1:02 PM, Jordan Erickson wrote:
> Just playing Devil's advocate (No Zack, not BSD ;} ).. About a year ago
> I purchased a brand new motherboard+cpu combo for a client of mine.
> Turns out the CPU was a bit *too* new for the motherboard (even though
> it was listed as supported in the manual) and the mobo required a BIOS
> update for the CPU to work. So buying not-so-tested-by-the-masses
> components or systems may also render inconveniences.
>
> Personally I've always purchased components (and software) that have
> been well tested (i.e. not too new, not too old, maybe give it about
> year or so after release). A generation below the brand-spanking-newest
> usually gives you much better price point for the hardware since vendors
> will be trying to clear their stock to make room for the newest stuff
> that's always marked up waaaaay more.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Jordan
>
> On 10/19/2015 11:38 AM, Zack Zatkin-Gold wrote:
>> In my experience, if you underdog your price range, you're going to
>> have inconveniences. I saved up and bought a $2,200 machine with good
>> tech specs and I haven't had any issues.
>>
>> On Monday, October 19, 2015, Steve S. <northbaygeek at gmail.com
>> <mailto:northbaygeek at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It's "alas" because I've found for some years now that mostly I
>> just want my computer to WORK, appliance-like. My fsck'ing
>> can-opener never throws bad blocks... :P
>>
>> Though I _used_to_ enjoy getting a new computer, setting it up,
>> etc, I mostly experience it these days as a massive inconvenience.
>>
>> Anyhow... rant over (at least for now). My question (likely the
>> first of several) is if there's a general consensus as to the
>> price/performance "sweet spot" for CPU's? Probably my most
>> compute-intensive chore is running Photoshop on 24MP raw images
>> (though I love me some complex 4X games in the Civ/AoE/MoO model,
>> and late-stage/large-map sessions DO take a while to calculate.).
>> I was rather startled by how cheap i7 systems have become! But
>> then again, I see that other considerations (Haswll, Broadwell,
>> Skylake, yadda yadda yadda) seem to be where much of the
>> differentiation is happening... so there's quite a HUGE range of
>> price and performance under the "i7" umbrella.
>>
>> And then there's AMD...
>>
>> I'm sure I could figure it out for myself, in time, but... Well,
>> per the Rant above, the geeky joy's just not there... I'm hoping
>> that my (admittedly-incomplete) assimilation into the nblug
>> collective might give me some quicker insights...
>>
>> Any advice/etc gratefully received!
>>
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the
>> fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -CS
>> Lewis
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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