[NBLUG/talk] talk Digest, Vol 166, Issue 1

Allan Cecil ac at sonic.net
Wed Mar 14 22:15:39 PDT 2018


I've been announcing when I've been streaming most talks but I had difficulty getting audio working correctly and by the time I resolved it the meeting was well underway so I opted not to post a link.

The recording of the most recent meeting is at https://www.twitch.tv/videos/238564785 if you'd like to watch it. Note that the first few minutes are missing.

Thanks,

A.C.
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On 03/14/2018 09:48 PM, marcus barrett wrote:
> sorry, haven't brushed up on the protocol and i don't pay much attention
> to the lists. i missed tues march 13 NBLUG meeting and i very much
> want to see whut the group was discussing that night.
> 
> so how do i get 'twitch' and where do i find NBLUG there?
> 
> thanks
> 
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>        1. Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud storage for my
>           desktop stuff (Kendall Shaw)
>        2. Re: Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud storage for my
>           desktop stuff (Zack Zatkin-Gold)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:01:48 -0700
>     From: Kendall Shaw <kshaw at kendallshaw.com <mailto:kshaw at kendallshaw.com>>
>     To: "General NBLUG chatter about anything Linux, answers to questions,
>             etc." <talk at nblug.org <mailto:talk at nblug.org>>
>     Subject: [NBLUG/talk] Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud
>             storage for my desktop stuff
>     Message-ID: <ca0625d8-83b0-fac6-8518-0b297ea16135 at kendallshaw.com <mailto:ca0625d8-83b0-fac6-8518-0b297ea16135 at kendallshaw.com>>
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>     Ideas about platform neutral, vendor independent, cloud based storage
>     and applications for things like email, calendars, documents?
> 
>     Google docs and gmail don't fit, because they leave me tethered to
>     Google and I am thinking in terms of persistence spanning decades, not
>     days or weeks.
> 
>     Kendall
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 08:59:14 -0700
>     From: "Zack Zatkin-Gold" <zg at zk.gd <mailto:zg at zk.gd>>
>     To: "General NBLUG chatter about anything Linux, answers to questions,
>             etc." <talk at nblug.org <mailto:talk at nblug.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [NBLUG/talk] Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud
>             storage for my desktop stuff
>     Message-ID: <20180314155914.2A7E02177A4 at zk.gd <mailto:20180314155914.2A7E02177A4 at zk.gd>>
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>     Most of the platforms out there are either built on open source software
>     or have evolved from a predecessor that was built on top of or supported
>     open source software, which means that you should be able to find a
>     somewhat full fledged solution to meet your needs, minus a feature or two.
>      I recently set up all of these services (email, calendar, contacts, and
>     more) for myself and had little to no difficulty in the process.  I would
>     say that the biggest pain point was getting my outbound email to avoid the
>     spam folders of my recipients and also having to accept that some
>     functionality was lost.
> 
>     Your approach to setting up these various services depends really on how
>     you want to start.  If you prefer to just dive in the deep end, I'd start
>     by spinning up a virtual machine on DigitalOcean or AWS which will cost
>     you upwards of $20/month.  Depending on which service you want to set up,
>     here are some suggestions for what to dig into if you want to do it how I
>     did:
> 
>     - Email: Postfix (for mail transfer), Dovecot (for IMAP / POP3 access),
>     OpenDKIM (for security around email), SPF (another security related
>     feature)
>     - Calendar: CalDAV server (I use Baikal - http://sabre.io/baikal/)
>     - Contacts: CardDAV server (also Baikal - http://sabre.io/baikal/)
>     - Documents: WebDAV server (http://sabre.io/dav/)
> 
>     One of the challenges that you'll face after you've set up your own
>     services is finding a client that works well with the service.
>     Fortunately for email, a lot of the default clients across devices (e.g.
>     Mail in iOS) still support open source protocols.  You shouldn't have too
>     much difficulty with email (IMAP and POP3 are still supported).  Finding a
>     client that works with your Calendar and Contacts services should be easy
>     to find too as they are still built around the open-source protocols --
>     Calendar on iOS and Contacts on iOS both work well with my services,
>     though I had to make some tweaks to get more advanced features to work.
> 
>     I might be able to provide some general guidance if you get stuck with
>     something specific on the above list I provided, though Google may be able
>     to find you a better solution too.
> 
>     > Ideas about platform neutral, vendor independent, cloud based storage
>     > and applications for things like email, calendars, documents?
>     >
>     > Google docs and gmail don't fit, because they leave me tethered to
>     > Google and I am thinking in terms of persistence spanning decades, not
>     > days or weeks.
>     >
>     > Kendall
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