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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">This is not a bad idea.<br>
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      On 03/03/2014 03:07 PM, Zack Gold wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I don't remember NBLUG trying to participate in
        events in Sonoma County. Like setting up booths or whatnot. That
        would be pretty rad. I would attend an event that NBLUG had a
        booth at.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Matt
          Hardwick <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:matthew.hardwick@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthew.hardwick@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Hi All, <br>
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                        I live in the East Bay nowadays, but I do know
                        of a few resources you may be able to pull from.
                        Mr. Poole mentioned both the local HAM groups,
                        and Hacker/Maker spaces.<br>
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                      I am a member of SRCA (one of the local active HAM
                      groups) ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://sonomacountyradioamateurs.com"
                        target="_blank">http://sonomacountyradioamateurs.com</a>
                      ), and know the founders of Chimera Art &
                      Maker Space ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://chimeraarts.org/" target="_blank">http://chimeraarts.org/</a>
                      ) which is located in Sebastopol. Worth talking to
                      both groups founders/boards.<br>
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                You may also want to reach out to the SSU Computer
                Science Club (I was VP last year). Also, reach out to
                SRJC. I am not sure the state of the club at SRJC since
                Zack Gold is no longer there, but I can get you in
                contact with a teacher or two.<br>
                <br>
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              <div>It may be worth reaching out to Josh Simmons at
                O'Reilly. He is a new Programming Community Organizer.
                He has lots of contacts with other local groups which
                may be worth reaching out too, such as the WIMPS ( <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://beawimp.org/"
                  target="_blank">http://beawimp.org/</a> )  <br>
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                I agree though, outreach is key on both the speaker
                circuit and member circuit.<br>
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              Matt<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div class="">On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:15 PM, M
                      Poole <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:urgyen@gmail.com" target="_blank">urgyen@gmail.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                              style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)">In
                              honor of the decidedly dead "no
                              top-posting" tradition I wish to post
                              in-line. Please excuse trimming to cut out
                              the chase.</span></div>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><span
style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br>
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                                style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)">On
                                Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Allan
                                Cecil </span><span dir="ltr"
                                style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:allan@nblug.org"
                                  target="_blank">allan@nblug.org</a>></span><span
style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> wrote:</span><br>
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                        <div class="gmail_extra">
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
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                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                                <div>Greetings,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  As President of the North Bay Linux
                                  User's Group</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                  ...</div>
                                State of the LUG
                                <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                  ... </div>
                                <div>and to encourage further discussion</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                  ... </div>
                                <div>2014:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  460 E-Mail addresses are subscribed to
                                  the NBLUG Announce list<br>
                                  273 E-Mail addresses are subscribed to
                                  the NBLUG Talk list<br>
                                </div>
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                                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">I
                                  don't remember which I am subscribed
                                  to, I'd expect it to be the talk list
                                  and I would expect that if that were
                                  so I am not also subscribed to the
                                  announce list though I am not sure
                                  about that as I can't recall what the
                                  parameters were regarding this
                                  dynamic. I would love to continue to
                                  receive emails. If this post bounces I
                                  will send to the other.</div>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">436
                                Talk list E-Mails were sent in 2013
                                (down from 897 in 2008)<br>
                              </blockquote>
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                            </div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Hmn,
                                communication resource development? I
                                don't usually contribute but "that's
                                another story."</div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                ~12 members attend each meeting as of
                                2014 (down from ~30 in 2008)<br>
                              </blockquote>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">I
                                totally wish I could attend. Life has
                                dialed me a new set of obstacles so I'm
                                working on it. HOWEVER... this would be
                                the topic of how I'd like to see things
                                go with the group:</div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><br>
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                              <div>
                                <div
                                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">outreach</div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div>
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                                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">
                                  outreach</div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div>
                                <div
                                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">outreach</div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <div class="gmail_extra">
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Cross-breeding
                                with amateur radio groups sounds super
                                logical as a means to this end as well
                                as the whole "Maker" / Hackerspace
                                momements ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://www.noisebridge.net/"
                                  target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/</a> ?).</div>
                            </div>
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                              <div> </div>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                6 of 6 board seats are filled now with 1
                                seat likely opening in July<br>
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                            <div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">My
                                impression is that the board would be
                                people actually attending meetings. If
                                the group were to be able to become more
                                decentralized maybe positions could be
                                more easily filled. The name is "North
                                Bay" after all.. that's a big area.</div>
                            </div>
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                                3,466 hits were registered at <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://nblug.org"
                                  target="_blank">http://nblug.org</a>
                                in the last 3 days<br>
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                                I don't usually chase down the web page.
                                It doesn't seem to be developed to
                                accumulate activity generating
                                information.</div>
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                                ~10 people are in the #nblug Freenode
                                IRC channel at any given time<br>
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                            <div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">I
                                use to be a stalwart IRC-ist -- haven't
                                had the time these days -- would like to
                                though. Kudos to the other stalwarts. I
                                do have some interesting IRC related
                                development ideas.</div>
                            </div>
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                              <div> </div>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                                $145.73 is in the NBLUG cashbox secured
                                by our treasurer<br>
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                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">
                              Outreach will generate overhead.</div>
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                                3 years have passed since a non-member
                                not named Alison presented<br>
                                Important information: Please contact us
                                at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:speakers@nblug.org"
                                  target="_blank">speakers@nblug.org</a>
                                <br>
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                                Speakers are currently locked into one
                                location, I can not attend, contributing
                                to topics in this way is more difficult.
                                Having roving speakers and roving
                                meeting location options or auxiliary of
                                either might be more workable and breath
                                a new life into the club.</div>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Mailing
                                lists: Our mailing lists have remained
                                fairly static<br>
                              </blockquote>
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                              </div>
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                            <div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">The
                                economy sucks. Circumstances are
                                reflected in club activity.</div>
                              <br>
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                                General meetings: Attendance at the
                                monthly general meetings has declined<br>
                              </blockquote>
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                            </div>
                            <div
                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">See
                              above. I still vote for decentralization.</div>
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                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                                NBLUG Board: The current board as
                                elected during the November 2013<br>
                              </blockquote>
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                            </div>
                            <div>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">It
                                is nice to see people able to contribute
                                with the current model.</div>
                            </div>
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                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><br>
                              </div>
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                                NBLUG website: The official NBLUG
                                website at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://nblug.org"
                                  target="_blank">http://nblug.org</a> <br>
                              </blockquote>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">
                                A website seems like a likely candidate
                                to host a decentralized model.</div>
                            </div>
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                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                IRC channel: NBLUG has an IRC channel at
                                #nblug on the Freenode network (<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://chat.freenode.net"
                                  target="_blank">chat.freenode.net</a>).
                                 <br>
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                                We have major app / resource development
                                potential here.</div>
                            </div>
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                                Cash balance: The NBLUG cashbox contains
                                exactly $145.73</div>
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ...</div>
                               not currently seeking donations.
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline"></div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <div><br>
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                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">I
                                am not sure I can afford contributions
                                or dues but would be interested in
                                trying should development of the club
                                become a priority.</div>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="">
                              <div> Speakers: The last time a talk was
                                given by a non-member</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">The
                                member / non-member split is
                                interesting. If the topics and
                                presentation locations were to be more
                                flexible than strict linux etal. more
                                local resources may begin to show up.</div>
                            </div>
                            <div
                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                              <div class="">
                                Opinion and analysis:  I, Allan, feel </div>
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">...</div>
                               no means dead user group
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ... </div>
                              natural rhythm of Linux
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ... </div>
                              several "Hackfest" meetings
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ... </div>
                              <div class="">decrease in attendance has
                                likely been directly tied to the lack of
                                fresh speakers.</div>
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ... </div>
                              seek out speakers
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ...</div>
                               best resource
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ... </div>
                              potential speakers
                              <div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19);display:inline">
                                ... </div>
                              members themselves.<br>
                            </blockquote>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Not
                                dead.. YEAH!!! Ok, so to keep it that
                                way and maybe even grow. A goal? Haven't
                                heard that motion seconded yet.</div>
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><br>
                              </div>
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Natural
                                rhythm (of development) is nice but I
                                think "new and innovative use" should be
                                considered too. Look at what is
                                happening in the ham radio world. Whole
                                brand new horizons are opening up to
                                this "ancient" "open" hobby.</div>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                              <div class="">I encourage everyone to
                                share their thoughts about this State of
                                the LUG update on the talk list and I
                                look forward to a lively discussion.
                                 Thanks,<br>
                                <br>
                                Allan Cecil<br>
                              </div>
                              President, North Bay Linux User's Group<br>
                              <br>
                              A.C.<br>
                              ******<br>
                            </blockquote>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div
                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">Hurrah
                              Hurray Hurrooh !!!</div>
                            <div
                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div
                              style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)"><br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                          40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">M
                                Poole</div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div
                                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,78,19)">
                                Member On The Rocks </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <div class="">
                        <br>
                        _______________________________________________<br>
                        talk mailing list<br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:talk@nblug.org" target="_blank">talk@nblug.org</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://nblug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk"
                          target="_blank">http://nblug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk</a><br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
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            </div>
            <br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            talk mailing list<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:talk@nblug.org">talk@nblug.org</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://nblug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk"
              target="_blank">http://nblug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk</a><br>
            <br>
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        </div>
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        <br clear="all">
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        </div>
        -- <br>
        <div dir="ltr">Zack Gold
          <div>Former NBLUG Scribe</div>
        </div>
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