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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Major version upgrades are always
problematic. Centos recommended a full reinstall up until their 6
to 7 update. There's a coding reason for this. You don't want
people coding for legacy issues. It makes more sense to focus on
making better, more stable features than to worry about
yesterday. <br>
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Regarding major version updates on my suggestion of a Linux Office
Initiative, I'd tend to lean towards doing full reinstalls and
focus on automatically updating config files for servers. This is
invariably the real issue anyway, old config files and old
drivers. It makes more sense to take it step by step and look at
the packages individually. I doubt a single update script can
deal with all the different permutations of thousands of packages
updating from millions of different config alternatives.<br>
<br>
If you have a running business server, you're going to have to do
a trial run on some sort of mirror anyway. A better process would
be to IMO:<br>
<br>
1. Set up a new server<br>
2. Install all your packages<br>
3. Copy/merge the old config files (through some sort of automated
script preferably)<br>
4. Copy the old data (also through an automated script)<br>
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Client machines are entirely different. It's probably safe to do
automatic updates on them, although Windows hasn't done graceful
software upgrades since Windows XP.<br>
<br>
Omar<br>
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On 8/29/2014 9:19 PM, Christopher Wagner wrote:<br>
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Hi Mitch, you might try renaming ~/.config also.<br>
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I'm running 12.04 LTS now, and dreading doing the 14.04 upgrade.
I just did the Hardware Enablement Stack upgrade, which went
fairly well, except trashing the proprietary AMD drivers on my
system. Had to remove and reinstall them and then all was well.<br>
<br>
- Chris<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/29/2014 08:57 PM, Mitch
Patenaude wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't know why I always forget how painful the
upgrade process is, but I've managed to once again render my
ubuntu machine almost unusable, and I'm hoping that somebody
here can help.
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<div>I'll spare you the details other than to say after much
hacking about with apt-* and dpkg I've managed to make it
boot, and can even get into a window manager by setting the
defaults to kdm and kde. The problem is that I don't like
KDE, and would much rather use some gnome based desktop, but
they all wedge on login. I can't find anything useful in
/var/log/Xorg.log or /var/log/syslog. </div>
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<div>I've tried removing (well, moving to a different
directory) ~/.gnome* and ~/.gtk*, but that didn't help.</div>
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<div>Any other ideas out there?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div> - Mitch</div>
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