<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>sorry, haven't brushed up on the protocol and i don't pay much attention <br></div>to the lists. i missed tues march 13 NBLUG meeting and i very much <br></div>want to see whut the group was discussing that night. <br><br></div>so how do i get 'twitch' and where do i find NBLUG there?<br><br></div>thanks<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:talk-request@nblug.org" target="_blank">talk-request@nblug.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send talk mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud storage for my<br>
desktop stuff (Kendall Shaw)<br>
2. Re: Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud storage for my<br>
desktop stuff (Zack Zatkin-Gold)<br>
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:01:48 -0700<br>
From: Kendall Shaw <<a href="mailto:kshaw@kendallshaw.com">kshaw@kendallshaw.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [NBLUG/talk] Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud<br>
storage for my desktop stuff<br>
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Ideas about platform neutral, vendor independent, cloud based storage<br>
and applications for things like email, calendars, documents?<br>
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Google docs and gmail don't fit, because they leave me tethered to<br>
Google and I am thinking in terms of persistence spanning decades, not<br>
days or weeks.<br>
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Kendall<br>
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 08:59:14 -0700<br>
From: "Zack Zatkin-Gold" <<a href="mailto:zg@zk.gd">zg@zk.gd</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [NBLUG/talk] Entering the age of dumb. Advice on cloud<br>
storage for my desktop stuff<br>
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Most of the platforms out there are either built on open source software<br>
or have evolved from a predecessor that was built on top of or supported<br>
open source software, which means that you should be able to find a<br>
somewhat full fledged solution to meet your needs, minus a feature or two.<br>
I recently set up all of these services (email, calendar, contacts, and<br>
more) for myself and had little to no difficulty in the process. I would<br>
say that the biggest pain point was getting my outbound email to avoid the<br>
spam folders of my recipients and also having to accept that some<br>
functionality was lost.<br>
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Your approach to setting up these various services depends really on how<br>
you want to start. If you prefer to just dive in the deep end, I'd start<br>
by spinning up a virtual machine on DigitalOcean or AWS which will cost<br>
you upwards of $20/month. Depending on which service you want to set up,<br>
here are some suggestions for what to dig into if you want to do it how I<br>
did:<br>
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- Email: Postfix (for mail transfer), Dovecot (for IMAP / POP3 access),<br>
OpenDKIM (for security around email), SPF (another security related<br>
feature)<br>
- Calendar: CalDAV server (I use Baikal - <a href="http://sabre.io/baikal/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sabre.io/baikal/</a>)<br>
- Contacts: CardDAV server (also Baikal - <a href="http://sabre.io/baikal/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sabre.io/baikal/</a>)<br>
- Documents: WebDAV server (<a href="http://sabre.io/dav/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sabre.io/dav/</a>)<br>
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One of the challenges that you'll face after you've set up your own<br>
services is finding a client that works well with the service.<br>
Fortunately for email, a lot of the default clients across devices (e.g.<br>
Mail in iOS) still support open source protocols. You shouldn't have too<br>
much difficulty with email (IMAP and POP3 are still supported). Finding a<br>
client that works with your Calendar and Contacts services should be easy<br>
to find too as they are still built around the open-source protocols --<br>
Calendar on iOS and Contacts on iOS both work well with my services,<br>
though I had to make some tweaks to get more advanced features to work.<br>
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I might be able to provide some general guidance if you get stuck with<br>
something specific on the above list I provided, though Google may be able<br>
to find you a better solution too.<br>
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> Ideas about platform neutral, vendor independent, cloud based storage<br>
> and applications for things like email, calendars, documents?<br>
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> Google docs and gmail don't fit, because they leave me tethered to<br>
> Google and I am thinking in terms of persistence spanning decades, not<br>
> days or weeks.<br>
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> Kendall<br>
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