<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Wow, thanks for the detailed answer.</div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, at 6:43 AM, Brad Morrison wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">Hi Jim, </span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">I know you said that
you live in Novato, but I'm in Santa Rosa/Sonoma County, so the
only local group that I know of that is working on these issues
is the Access Sonoma Broadband group affiliated with the SC
Economic Development Board - <a href="https://sonomaedb.org/current-initiatives/broadband" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://sonomaedb.org/current-initiatives/broadband</a></span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">You could try to
connect with them and see if they are organizing people around
this CPUC rulemaking process or they know people in Marin County
that are...?</span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">You could also try to
connect with TURN/The Utility Reform Network (<a href="https://www.turn.org/" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.turn.org/</a>). They
do a lot of organizing around utility rate increases and some
work on telecom access (<a href="https://www.turn.org/att-cable-resist-calif-affordability-metrics/" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.turn.org/att-cable-resist-calif-affordability-metrics/</a>). </span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">My parents live in
rural Kenwood/Glen Ellen and that small area used to have
Verizon for landline/POTS service, but Frontier took over that
Verizon station in downtown Kenwood. They do not have access to
Comcast or any cable/coaxial service where they live and the
last time we checked (over a decade ago, but still) it would
have cost something like $35,000 put a line up the road that
they live on. The Frontier landline was $80-90 per month and did
not include internet service. They ended up transferring their
phone number for the last 40+ years to Sonic, cancelling their
Frontier landline service and they now use Rhinobee (<a href="https://www.rhinobee.com/" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.rhinobee.com/</a>)
for internet and to access their Sonic VOIP service. </span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">Good luck!</span><br></p><p><span class="font" style="font-family:"Times New Roman", Times, serif;">Brad</span><br></p><div class="qt-moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/22 12:00, <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:talk-request@nblug.org">talk-request@nblug.org</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:mailman.1.1668542401.32184.talk@nblug.org"><pre class="qt-moz-quote-pre">Send talk mailing list submissions to
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1. Fwd: California Voice Service Quality Public Participation
Hearings (Jim Oser)
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 20:30:47 -0800
From: "Jim Oser" <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oserj@oserconsulting.com"><oserj@oserconsulting.com></a>
To: "nblug talk" <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:talk@nblug.org"><talk@nblug.org></a>
Subject: [NBLUG/talk] Fwd: California Voice Service Quality Public
Participation Hearings
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Once upon a time, I attended Linux meetings at O'Reilly's, perl meetings in Santa Rosa, and Mac meetings in Rohnert Park.
At that time one or more members of nblug were employees at sonic.net
This post isn't relevant to linux, but it a post that would interest geeks in California, especially geeks, who work for or did work for sonic.net, so please don't
<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre class="qt-moz-quote-pre">$ rm -rf *
<br></pre></blockquote><pre class="qt-moz-quote-pre">Do you know anything about this?
Have you received any email about R2203016 or "*Rulemaking 22-03-016* to the CPUC"?
I live in the north end of Novato. Our phone and Internet service has always been different than the rest of Novato and rest of Marin County. We have a Frontier landline (POTS = Plain Old Telephone Service). Sonic.net in Santa Rosa does not service north Novato because of the Frontier central office is different than the central offices in the rest of Northern California (former PacBell).
We got the below cryptic email because we have a Frontier landline POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service).
With a little googling I found the CPUC (California Public Utilities Commision) Facebook page, which states:
California Public Utilities Commission
November 7 at 2:45 pm
<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre class="qt-moz-quote-pre">We will hold remote public forums on Dec. 6 at 6 p.m. and Dec. 8 at 1 p.m. to provide an opportunity for customers of various telephone, mobile voice, and Voice over the Internet Protocol (VoIP) service providers to offer their input to the CPUC regarding their quality of voice services: <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/…/cpuc-to-hold-public-forums-on-tel…">https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/…/cpuc-to-hold-public-forums-on-tel…</a> <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/%E2%80%A6/cpuc-to-hold-public-forums-on-tel%E2%80%A6"><https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/%E2%80%A6/cpuc-to-hold-public-forums-on-tel%E2%80%A6></a>
Comment online if you can’t join us: <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://apps.cpuc.ca.gov/c/R2203016">https://apps.cpuc.ca.gov/c/R2203016</a>
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If you google: CPUC R2203016
it will take you to a webpage, whose headings say: Proceedings, Documents, Rulings, Decisions, Public Comment
If you click on the Public Comment tab, there are comments from all over California, complaining about cell phone and landline service from all companies, not just Frontier.
You can also copy and paste these links, be sure to include the funny ::: at the end of the link
<a class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://apps.cpuc.ca.gov/apex/f?p=401:65:0::NO">https://apps.cpuc.ca.gov/apex/f?p=401:65:0::NO</a>:::
Go to: <a class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi2ppuUqa_7AhWLGzQIHSgwASIQFnoECBAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.cpuc.ca.gov%2Fp%2FR2203016&usg=AOvVaw3wTvPtcpIr-vlZgvBSAMp8">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi2ppuUqa_7AhWLGzQIHSgwASIQFnoECBAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.cpuc.ca.gov%2Fp%2FR2203016&usg=AOvVaw3wTvPtcpIr-vlZgvBSAMp8</a>
Any opinions?
Jim
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Subject: California Voice Service Quality Public Participation Hearings
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Hi Sara,
We wanted to reach out and let you know that the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) has scheduled upcoming Public Participation Hearings (PPHs) where you can submit comments about the quality of your residential voice telephone service, including service outages and service restoration.
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