I think it was on this list that I heard about Michael Tiemann's bold statement: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-2932538.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.ni Someone just pointed this out to me: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-10-05-007-20-OP-RH -Scott