[NBLUG/talk] Fwd: OOo education marketing strategy

[Nat W]

I believe only video editing is done on the macs so
its not necessary to
get open office on them 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-admin at nblug.org
[mailto:talk-admin at nblug.org] On Behalf Of
Lincoln Peters
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:38 PM
To: talk at nblug.org
Subject: RE: [NBLUG/talk] Fwd: OOo education marketing
strategy

Installing OpenOffice on MacOS X is possible, but it
is not very easy.



OpenOffice on MacOS X looks and feels just like the
versions for other
UNIX 

systems (including Linux).  It also requires X11, just
like the versions
for 

other UNIX systems.  The easiest way to handle this is
to install Apple
X11, 

but if you want to avoid installing any more
proprietary stuff on these
Macs 

(X11 is open-source, but Apple X11 is proprietary),
you should install 

XDarwin.  XDarwin is more difficult to install, but if
you know what
you're 

doing, it will make it easier for you to install and
run countless 

open-source goodies besides OpenOffice.



I've written a tutorial on how to set up XDarwin and
OpenOffice for the 

North Coast Mac Users' Group.  If you want, I can send
you a copy.
However, 

I cannot guarantee that it will work for your Mac labs
exactly as
expected 

(it has not been tested on anything except my iBook),
but if you have
any 

problems, I can (try to) help you to solve them.









Lincoln









>From: Nat W <calvin166 at yahoo.com>

>Reply-To: talk at nblug.org

>To: talk at nblug.org

>Subject: RE: [NBLUG/talk] Fwd: OOo education
marketing strategy

>Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:17:50 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Cool, most of the macs are on OSX, and The school has

>a few burners and

>so do a lot of my friends school doesn’t start for
two

>weeks but once it

>does ill be sure to talk to the principal(no real IT

>guys....)

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: talk-admin at nblug.org

>[mailto:talk-admin at nblug.org] On Behalf Of

>Lincoln Peters

>Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:39 PM

>To: talk at nblug.org

>Subject: Re: [NBLUG/talk] Fwd: OOo education
marketing

>strategy

>

>Find someone with some authority (perhaps the teacher

>of a computer

>class,

>

>an IT person, anyone) and tell them that there is a

>program called

>

>OpenOffice that can do everything that Microsoft

>Office can do, and it

>is

>

>100% free and open-source.  Be sure to tell them the

>website address

>

>(http://www.openoffice.org/).  Of course, it can do

>some things that

>

>Microsoft Office can't do, but we don't want to

>overwhelm them (most

>

>teachers don't seem to learn as quickly as their

>students).

>

>

>

>You might also be able to get their attention if you

>tell them that it

>is

>

>available in 27 languages.  Considering the number of

>native

>

>Spanish-speakers in our area, I'm sure that part of

>the student

>population

>

>would appreciate a free office suite that speaks
their

>native language.

>

>

>

>The OpenOffice.org team plans to release an ISO that,

>once burned to a

>CD,

>

>will easily install OpenOffice on any Windows
machine.

>  If they decide

>that

>

>they want OpenOffice on the computers in their PC

>labs, they can easily

>do

>

>so with this CD.

>

>

>

>If you can convince anyone with a CD burner to help,

>you should ask them

>if

>

>they can burn OpenOffice CD's.

>

>

>

>The ISO should be released before the end of the

>month.  I'll let the

>group

>

>know as soon as it becomes available.  I can also
burn

>copies of it for

>

>those who want to participate but don't have CD

>burners (or who have CD

>

>burners but slow Internet connections).

>

>

>

>

>

>As for the Mac lab, tf the Macs are running MacOS X
or

>later, they can

>run

>

>OpenOffice, but as far as I know, there is no way to

>run it on earlier

>

>versions of MacOS (9 or earlier).  Furthermore, the

>MacOS X version of

>

>OpenOffice is not yet localized, so students would

>have to use it in

>English

>

>even if English is not their first language.

>

>

>

>

>

>If anyone at Maria Carillo has questions that you

>can't answer, feel

>free to

>

>give them my e-mail address

>(lincoln_peters at hotmail.com).  I'll try to

>

>answer any questions that come my way.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Lincoln

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: Nat W <calvin166 at yahoo.com>

>

> >Reply-To: talk at nblug.org

>

> >To: talk at nblug.org

>

> >Subject: Re: [NBLUG/talk] Fwd: OOo education

>marketing strategy

>

> >Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:34:52 -0700 (PDT)

>

> >

>

> >I am a student at mario carillo high in santa rosa
id

>

> >be willing to help if you gave me a little more
info

>

> >on how you plan on puttin open office in the
school.

>

> >we have 3 pc labs and 2 mac labs

>

> >

>

> >--- Lincoln Peters <lincoln_peters at hotmail.com>

>wrote:

>

> > > I just got this message from Ian.  He has

>partially

>

> > > formalized the strategy

>

> > > for putting OpenOffice in schools, although he
is

>

> > > certain that the exacy

>

> > > procedure will vary by country.

>

> > >

>

> > > I live in Rohnert Park, and I know that I can
get

>

> > > CD's to Rancho Cotate High

>

> > > School.  I can also try to get something to
happen

>

> > > in Thomas Page School

>

> > > (the K-8 school in Cotati) and Marguerite Hahn

>

> > > Elementary School.  If anyone

>

> > > on this list has even one contact in any school

>

> > > (teacher OR student), I

>

> > > would strongly recommend that you try to get the

>

> > > word into the school, even

>

> > > if you cannot be there on October 13 and/or you

>

> > > cannot burn CD's.  We *will*

>

> > > find a way to get those CD's into their hands.

>

> > >

>

> > > Ian is also interested in the names of anyone
who

>

> > > wants to participate (so

>

> > > that he can say how big the effort really is
when

>he

>

> > > writes the press

>

> > > release).  If you want to get involved, send an

>

> > > e-mail either to me or to

>

> > > Ian <ian.lynch2 at ntlworld.com>.  Use the subject

>line

>

> > > "OOoEduHelper" if you

>

> > > e-mail Ian.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > For those who might fail to see the advantages
of

>

> > > OpenOffice over Microsoft

>

> > > Office: consider that Microsoft Office XP

>

> > > Professional costs $429.99 at

>

> > > CompUSA.  At Tiger Direct

>

> > > (http://www.tigerdirect.com/), CD-R media costs
as

>

> > > little as $0.17 per disc.  That means that, for

>the

>

> > > price of one copy of

>

> > > Microsoft Office XP Professional, one could burn

>

> > > 2,529 OpenOffice CD's!

>

> > > Furthermore, there is no limit, theoretical or

>

> > > legal, to the number of

>

> > > computers that you could install OpenOffice on

>with

>

> > > just one of those 2,529

>

> > > CD's!

>

> > >

>

> > > And if that's not enough, a complete list of new

>

> > > features in OpenOffice 1.1

>

> > > (many of which are completely lacking in
Microsoft

>

> > > Office) is available at

>

> > >

>

>
>http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/1.1rc3/features.html

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Lincoln

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > >From: ian <ian.lynch2 at ntlworld.com>

>

> > > >Subject: OOo education marketing strategy

>

> > > >Date: 17 Aug 2003 13:41:16 +0100

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Hi,

>

> > > >

>

> > > >You are being sent this message because you

>

> > > expressed interest in

>

> > > >helping with the launch of a marketing strategy

>for

>

> > > Education starting

>

> > > >on October 13th 2003, OOo's third birthday. If

>you

>

> > > no longer wish to

>

> > > >participate please E-mail me and let me know
and

>

> > > I'll remove you from

>

> > > >the list.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >There will be differences in different
countries

>

> > > and so we need a broad

>

> > > >strategy that can be "localised" to fit

>individual

>

> > > circumstances. Here

>

> > > >is the basic strategy

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Goal 1.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Get as many activists as possible worldwide

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Effective strategies: Tap into your contacts
and

>

> > > mailing list where

>

> > > >these are likely to be sympathetic. I have had
a

>

> > > good response from

>

> > > >Schoolforge, AFFS, Linux User Groups. It only

>takes

>

> > > an E-mail to a

>

> > > >suitable list so potential large gain for small

>

> > > effort. I encourage

>

> > > >non-native speakers of English to do this
because

>

> > > its less likely that

>

> > > >the messages set out in English will cross the

>

> > > language barrier without

>

> > > >this. Encourage anyone taking part to drop me a

>

> > > minimal E-mail with the

>

> > > >title OOoEduHelper so I can keep a list of all

>the

>

> > > helpers. It will help

>

> > > >if they say whether they want to be added to
this

>

> > > list or not and if so

>

> > > >their location and briefly what they propose to

>do.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Goal 2.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Get as many schools as possible aware that OOo

>

> > > exists

>

> > > >

>

> > > >This simply requires contacting schools and

>

> > > providing factual

>

> > > >information.ie There is a free Office Suite
they

>

> > > can download from

>

> > > >www.OpenOffice.org and there are sources of

>supply

>

> > > on CD-ROM for nominal

>

> > > >media costs. The software is designed for easy

>

> > > migration from MS Office

>

> > > >and has a high degree of file compatibility
with

>

> > > it. The software has

>

> > > >functions of significant value to education the

>go

>

> > > beyond those found in

>

> > > >MS Office. eg Ability to save in pdf format and
a

>

> > > powerful drawing and

>

> > > >design program. The method of contacting the

>

> > > schools will depend on

>

> > > >local organisation. In some cases it will be
just

>a

>

> > > matter of talking to

>

> > > >a friend or relative who works in a particular

>

> > > school, in others it

>

> > > >might be possible to contact the administration

>

> > > responsible for a group

>

> > > >of schools. Remember one school contacted is

>better

>

> > > than no schools

>

> > > >contacted so don't assume that if you can't do
a

>

> > > lot its not worthwhile.

>

> > > >Every little bit helps.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Goal 3.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Get OOo to as many students as possible

>

> > > >

>

> > > >This is the next step on from Goal 2. Again, it

>

> > > will to an extent depend

>

> > > >on local circumstances. If for example you just

>

> > > want to burn some CDs

>

> > > >for the project, we need to be able to transfer

>

> > > these to someone who can

>

> > > >distribute to them in schools. It would
therefore

>

> > > be helpful if you

>

> > > >could E-mail me back with some idea of where
you

>

> > > are located eg Country,

>

> > > >State/county/region and briefly the extent of

>your

>

> > > participation

>

> > > >

>

> > > >eg contact a school raise awareness, or burn 50

>

> > > CDs, but I need a

>

> > > >distributor or burn 100 CDs and distribute them

>

> > > myself.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >I can't be absolutely sure how this will work
out

>

> > > but lets give it a go

>

> > > >and see.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >The final version of OOo 1.1 should be
available

>

> > > before the end of

>

> > > >August and there should be an iso. On this

>

> > > assumption I propose where

>

> > > >possible to use the "official" ISO from the OOo

>

> > > Website as far as

>

> > > >possible. If this makes life difficult as you

>

> > > already have plans to

>

> > > >distribute OOo as part of a different package

>then

>

> > > Ok, but try and make

>

> > > >it vers 1.1 as it has some clear advantages
that

>

> > > will help further the

>

> > > >marketing effort. The bottom line is that any
OOo

>

> > > is better than no OOo

>

> > > >but 1.1 is what we should be aiming for.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Goal 4 Publicity

>

> > > >

>

> > > >If we can make a press announcement that
hundreds

>

> > > of volunteers around

>

> > > >the world are supporting schools in getting
free

>

> > > Office Software it is

>

> > > >likely to be newsworthy which is why I need

>

> > > evidence of all the

>

> > > >helpers.We have no advertising budget but this

>sort

>

> > > of exposure is

>

> > > >better than "paid for" advertising. I'll
prepare

>a

>

> > > press release nearer

>

> > > >the time and again if any of you can send it to

>as

>

> > > many journals in your

>

> > > >country/locality as possible it will be a big

>help

>

> > > >

>

> > > >Goal 5 Platform for future development.

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >=== message truncated ===

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >=====

>

> >- Nat

>

> >

>

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